Jenny Don’t and the Spurs
Portland outfit Jenny Don’t and the Spurs have been recording
and playing for the last ten years and show no signs of slowing down. A supergroup
combining members of Don’t, Wipers and Pierced Arrows, the Spurs combines the
fast energy of garage and punk, with the attitude of outlaw country. If Patsy Cline
started a band with some ratbags hanging around CBGBs it would sound like this.
We spoke with singer/guitarist Jenny Connors and her husband,
and also Spurs bass player Kelly Halliburton from their Portland home a week
before they land in Australia for their second Spurs tour.
Munster: I saw on the anti-social media outlets the band was in
Revolver Studio the other day. A new release in the works?
Jenny: we were there everyday last week and then yesterday was
our last day. We did 12-hour days every day. It’s been fun recording with Collin
Hegna (Brian Jonestown Massacre), and everything is tracked and ready, tried to
have it done before we hit the road.
Munster: any release date?
Jenny: June next year. The singles will come out in April of
2024.
Munster: I saw Jem, of We Empty Rooms fame here in Victoria, is
doing a 7 inch for your upcoming tour.
Jenny: we’re excited about that. We met Jem when we playing in
Melbourne last year and he hooked us up with Alex from Sound Recordings. He’s a
great dude. We played with him with his band Dead when we played at Shotkickers..
Munster: was that your first time in Australia last tour?
Jenny: I’d never been. Kelly, he came over before with Severed Head
of State and Pierced Arrows.
Munster: you must have made an impact to come back straight
away, and the country must have done the same on you too to want to return a
year later.
Jenny: yeah it was great. The tour was super fun, we thought
what can we do to come back straight away? We had a good time and we got a good
response as people wanted us back which is a good feeling (at this pint Kelly
enters the room).
Kelly: Sorry I’m late. I was doing some screen printing for
some merch for the tour.
Jenny: so the screen printing is for a 7 inch, the one Jem is
putting out for the tour, but we’ll also release it in New Zealand and in the
states. The New Zealand and US versions will have different covers.
Kelly: there will be four different covers. And maybe a coloured
vinyl. Some of us are record collector nerds (all laugh). The Australian
version, the New Zeeland one, the normal one, you know mail order and in record
shops in Australia, and the North American one. There will be 100 of the tour
ones and a few hundred of the normal ones.
Munster: In terms of you guys collaborating together, did you
guys first start playing in Don’t?
Jenny: Kelly wasn’t in the band straight away. It was me and
the previous drummer, Sam Henry, who sadly passed away. But Kelly was our tour
manager. Drove us round, booked shows, merch boy (laughs).
Kelly: yeah I did everything but play.
Jenny: but then he was in the band at the end of our run in
2016.
Kelly: the first bass player stepped down and as I was a bass
player it was a natural fit. That was the final line up, with me on guitar and Sam
and Jenny on drums and vocals. Then the Vegetable from Portland (Eric Olsen), from
punk rock heavyweights Poison Idea, played guitar. He was a hold over from the
golden years of Poison Idea, the War all the Time era one of my favourite periods
of the band.
Munster: was country music something you guys grew up with?
Jenny: I did. My mum was into horses, and she was a rodeo queen
in the 70s. I grew up with horses and did some rodeo stuff when I was a kid. I’d
sing to Patsy Cline as practice, that was the go to. Then of course as a teenager
punk and fast music took over. When I was writing songs and learning how to
play guitar, I always wrote more western and that style of song. Kelly was the
one who said we need to play together sometime just for fun, not with the band
just the two of us. And it snowballed into the Spurs. Sam turned me onto the
Gun Club, a punk band but with western elements without being a traditional
country song.
Kelly: yeah there was that 80s California cowpunk scene, X kind
of flirted with that, Tex and the Horseheads, The Vandals, Gun Club of course,
Rank and File. I guess the Australian equivalent would the Johnny’s and Beasts
of Bourbon, these bands that made the cross over. We had done a lot of the
other styles over the years and that ran its course in a way. So was stylistically
something new and fun. Don’t was great but was…..
Jenny: kind of limiting.
Kelly: limiting yes. The places we could play and the people
that would be interested in buying the LPs . Now we get to play wineries and breweries,
places that would never book Don’t. We once played at a Retirement Home
(laughs). We’re looking at each other thinking this is amazing.
Jenny: we want to play anywhere anytime. Any weekend. With the
Spurs we’ve allowed ourselves to do that. So if we’re playing a punk venue we
can play the faster stuff, and if we’re at a Honky Tonk and the crowd is 70
plus we can play the slow two step songs. And its fulfilling in that sense as
we can keep ourselves busy.
Kelly: it could blow up in our faces, as attached to this Australia
and New Zealand tour, we’re doing a tour of south east Asia, including India, Malaysia
and the Philippines. It’s funny I toured that area almost 20 years ago with this
German crust punk band called Cluster Bomb Unit, and that was full on hardcore
crust stuff. The people booking these shows are going on the strength of the
fact I had been there with that band. I sent them the music and videos but I’m
wondering how many Malaysian crust fans are going to show up (laughs).
Munster: Someone told me recently they saw Jerry Lee Lewis at
Festival Hall in Melbourne in the 70s. the crowd was full of rockers and Jerry
did a pure country set which didn’t get over well. I don’t know if it was a
riot but the punters didn’t get what they wanted. Maybe that will happen on
that tour.
Kelly: on the other hand people are still talking about it. If
they got what they expected they’d say yeah good show and move on. Remember the
great Malaysian country crust riot of 2024? That will be one for the books.
Munster: You mentioned the Vandals, I remember when they did
some country stuff, it felt like we’ll add some twang, some steal guitar, and
its county music, and for me didn’t feel authentic. When Ween did 12 Golden
Country greats, its felt like a real country LP, but I think a lot of people
heard that LP and thought if they can do it so can we, but missed the mark, and
it didn’t have that authenticity of what made it great.
Kelly: I don’t know what
it is, the punks going country, which usually means putting on a country hat
and playing acoustic guitar alone and…
Munster: singing about dead Utes
Kelly: exactly. We never wanted to do that. We wanted to take
the anger and energy of our punk bands
and channel that into something else. I see the punk and country scene
as having the same basic roots. Working class, blue colour, frustration, and
entertainment to blow off that frustration.
One of those nuances with country is people say is it Nashville of Barkerville?
Nashville is Tennessee, Barkerville is California. A lot of the reason why a
lot of country music is from there was due to a big migration from the south
during the depression. A lot of that was dirt poor, hard scrabble, blue collar worker
types. If you look at the roots of punk and rock n roll, that’s where it came
from. That status of society that channelled there frustration into music. We
identify more with Bakersville then Nashville. Nashville is more over produced,
lot of strings where Bakersville is more hard guitar stuff. That’s where we
come at it from punk to country. Everyone has their interpretation that’s just
ours.
Munster: that’s a great summery and agree when it comes to
attitude. I always thought Hank Williams was the original punk rocker.
Kelly: yeah totally, him and Darby Crash has similar believes
and met similar ends.
Jenny: yeah, they were both pushing boundaries from their respective
eras.
Munster: I saw you’re playing Tamworth on this tour; did you
play their last time?
Kelley: no. we heard it was a good place to play, someone does
a music festival there which we couldn’t get on but we still got there.
Munster: I’ve looked at your tour schedule and it appears you
guys are barely at home, and Kelly you mentioned you were doing some work on
your upcoming release minutes ago, so when you are home is just
writing/recording and doing admin, or do you have day gigs?
Kelly its non stop. We handle most stuff of the band. We run
the label most of our releases come out on, we run the mail order. Do the shirts.
I don’t screen t shirts, but we do the mail order and distribution. And try and
balance a life as well. Its our day job. A poorly paying one. Its hard work, I
made the transition from what was my day job to this. I’ve been in construction
for 20 years, 15 working for myself. Finally, the band got so busy, not that we
made so much money I could quit, it was so time consuming I didn’t have time
for my job, so its nonstop I tell you. we were in Europe this year, got back at
the end of May, every weekend since then we’ve been playing shows. Its like
touring but we come home every three days and sleep in our own bed.
Jenny: yeah we played 150 shows this year.
Kelly: not over yet.
Munster Jenny is this the same for you?
Jenny: pretty much. I was working at a venue. I’m still
employed but I work once I month. If I’m in town I’ll work a shift. I do
production management. Open the venue, set up the green room, pay bands at the
end of the night. The company I work for has a few venues in town and treat bands
good. Most of the people they employ are touring musicians. It’s a great gig to
have and keeps you connected to the music scene locally. Sometimes I like it
other times I’m like why do I know this, this is terrible (laughs). But there
very supportive of giving me time off when we have tours.
Munster: the band your playing with in Australia, is it the
Spurs line up from the states or do you have some local ring ins?
Jenny: it’s the American line up. When we started the Spurs, we
had the intention of it being interchanging and who’s in town. Then we found
out quickly we don’t want to do that. When you see bands that have rotating
members you can tell, there’s not the connection. That said those bands are
super hard working too, as you got to keep teaching the interchange members the
materials and hoping they’ve learned it, and they do their homework, which
doesn’t always happen. For us we have the same members and try to travel
together all the time.
Kelly: that’s something from the punk scene we took, which is
the band is a unit, almost a gang or a family. In Country music they tend to
have pick up players, you have a name, and the name travels to a city and picks
up a bass player and the rest of the band. We don’t want to do that. We’ve been
approached on many occasions by people, international festivals, and they say
we can’t afford to pay for all four of you, so we’ll pay for you and Jenny, and
we’ll find you a guitar player and drummer. We can’t do that to the guys.
Jenny: and the only reason we would get offers from festivals
is because of the work of all four of us. It wouldn’t be fair. “Thanks for the
help getting us here guys, see you soon”.
Kelly: their sacrificing their time and effort and there in the
trenches with us.
Munster: yeah it’s one of those things, people who leave the
band at home and tour overseas with local players, I don’t like it but I
understand it given the cost and logistics involved, so onya to you guys for
saying it’s the full band or nothing.
Jenny: yeah its hard, but it feels better doing it this way.
I’ve had offers for me to do solo stuff, just come over as an introduction and
we’ll work on getting the band over next time. For me, me playing the songs by
myself are not what the songs are meant to sound like, so I would do the fans a
disservice as well as the band.
Munster: Do you two play together as a duo or is it band or
nothing?
Jenny: on tour, if a radio station says come in and do a song
or two, I’ll do that, but a whole set, no.
Kelly: we ruled that out at the beginning, how the band formed
was it was Jenny and I, and this was before Don’t broke up. Jenny played with
Don’t, I had a few other bands I was touring extensively in, and when we were
home, we said let’s play something mellow, we can play anywhere, we just sat
there putting together our first set, which was some of Jenny’s originals and
some country standards. And acoustic guitar and acoustic bass, and we were plunking
away, and I thought this sounds awful especially the bass, it was better just
Jenny solo. But that’s how we invited Sam on board. And when Sam came on board we
said just brushes on a snare, nothing else. One by one the drum kit grew, and
then it became a full band. But every time we get tempted to do a two-piece
thing we think back to that early day and say can’t do it.
Jenny: I’ll do the acoustic thing for a song or two for
necessity.
Kelly: and she sounds great doing it, it sounds fine. I can’t
sing to save my life
Munster: we were talking about Poison Idea before, is that true
Jerry A married you guys?
Kelly: he did. He got his mail order ministry licence. I asked
him, and I heard he was an ordained minister, you can send $2 and you’re a
minister and marry people. People like us, who don’t want any formal, religion
involved in our wedding, we’ll find people like that. I heard Jerry had his
licence, he didn’t but he mailed off for it. Poison Idea where pretty important
in my youth, and inspirational to me. And over the years they become friends,
and some band mates at different points in my life and the coolest people, and Jerrys
been really cool and supportive over the years. On the first Spurs LP he does a
duet with Jenny, they does Lee Hazelwood and Nancy Sinatra Lady bird. That Jerry
doing the male parts.
Munster: Jenny, do you make all the groups outfits?
Jenny: I make my own outfits; I don’t do the guys suits. At
some point I plan on making some western shirts but all the western dresses
with chain sticking I do myself. And his jackets I’ve done all the chain
sticking embellishments on western stuff. I started it a few years ago as getting
anything custom is expensive, and I couldn’t find anything in the shops that
fit the band. As Kelly said we do our own label and we’re doing our own LPs, so
I couldn’t justify spending the money off a record for a suit, so I started
making them. But it’s been fun.
Kelly: its that old thing of we like cool stuff but we can’t
afford it, so we’re forced to do it ourselves.
Munster: Jenny, I noticed your wearing a Dead Moon Cap, is that
also a Dead Moon tattoo on your arm?
Jenny: Oh yeah. I’m like a super fan today. This was made by
Cody, who sticked this and gave it to me when we played at Shotkickers.
Kelly: actually, its mine but she’s wearing it now.
Munster: Kelly, if its cool do you mind telling us about your
time with Pierced Arrows playing with Fred and Toody?
Kelly: I was with them for ten years and had a really crazy
time. Got to tour around the world and they were like surrogate parents to
me. It was like touring with someone’s parents,
but it was more fun.
Jenny: Toody is doing really good, and sometimes we back her,
with Toody Cole and the Spurs.
Kelly: we just did a show with her, me and Christopher, the guitar
in the Spurs, it was a big set of Dead Moon, Pierced Arrows, the Rats, the
Weeds, kind of a retrospective look. Dead Moon was this force in Portland
growing up playing in bands in the late 80s/early 90s. I started touring
overseas in the 1992, and going to Europe I was amazed how everyone knew who
Dead Moon was. This weird band from Portland is really famous in Germany and
all over the damn place.
Jenny: that was there whole thing just do it. It doesn’t matter
if you can do it very well or not just do it.
Kelly: and usually it will work out. Your fears or insecurities
exceed what your actual abilities are, your usually much better at something
then you think you are. And that was their philosophy and if you’re not very
good at it, fuck it at least your tried.
Jenny Don’t and the Spurs Tour dates:
SEPTEMBER
30 – LA LA LA’S / WOLLONGONG, NSW
OCTOBER
1 – THE SOUTHERN / BERRY, NSW
2 - THE ENMORE HOTEL / SYDNEY, NSW
(free)
6 – THE AUSTRALIAN HOTEL / BALLINA, NSW
(free)
7 – THE TRIFFID / BRISBANE, QLD with Henry Wagons
8 - TAMWORTH HOTEL / TAMWORTH, NSW
(free)
11 - THE BRIDGE HOTEL / CASTLEMAINE, VIC
12 - BRUNSWICK BALLROOM / MELBOURNE, VIC with The
Pink Stones and The Bures Band
13 - THE BARWON CLUB / GEELONG, VIC with The Pink
Stones and The Bures Band
14 – OUT ON THE WEEKEND / MELBOURNE, VIC
15 – THE STAR / YACKANDANDAH, VIC with The Pink
Stones and The Bures Band
17 – THE GREAT CLUB / SYDNEY, NSW with The Pink
Stones and The Bures Band
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